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Understanding 9/11Grateful Dead Live at Ventura County Fairgrounds on 1983-07-30
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- 1983-07-30 ( check for other copies)
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China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, It's All Over Now, Brown Eyed Women, My Brother Esau, Big Railroad Blues, Cassidy, Loser, The Music Never Stopped Sugaree, Playin' In The Band-> China Doll-> Drums-> Truckin'-> Black Peter-> Sugar Magnoli
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ACM>DAT>CDR; via Paul B; Seeded to etree by Ernie Dodd
- Addeddate
- 2004-06-19 23:58:20
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- 1
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- gd83-07-30.aud.dodd.11932.sbeok.shnf
- Location
- Ventura, CA
- Numeric_id
- 15294
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- 2
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- ACM>DAT>CDR
- Type
- sound
- Year
- 1983
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Reviewer:
jjg4762
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April 16, 2014 (edited)
Subject: also there NOT hot
Subject: also there NOT hot
they did not live up to our hype. It was chilly and waaaaay windy at these shows low 70's Jerry wore the red flannel shirt. We all speculated he must be
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sick.
I think the smoking hot mid summer tour was so darn good they just went threw the motions for these 2 shows. But still good time had by our crew back then. Sugaree to open 2nd set only done 1 other time this year in Maine was fun but we got to many Playin>China dolls to make this one special. I prefer next night Other one space was long and hot. Think weather threw them off these two days this one more then next though.
I think the smoking hot mid summer tour was so darn good they just went threw the motions for these 2 shows. But still good time had by our crew back then. Sugaree to open 2nd set only done 1 other time this year in Maine was fun but we got to many Playin>China dolls to make this one special. I prefer next night Other one space was long and hot. Think weather threw them off these two days this one more then next though.
Reviewer:
Mark Scalise
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November 11, 2008
Subject: No Satisfaction
Subject: No Satisfaction
With all due respect to the previous reviewer, this show did NOT feature a 2nd encore of Satisfaction. Perhaps the reviewer is confusing it with the Chula
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Vista '85 show.
That being said, this is a smokin' little show. Not as lengthy as some others from the era, but great playing start to finish, espeicially in light of the month-long layoff before this date. Jerry tears it up on Music Never Stopped, and the Playin' jam hits the slipstream nicely. Love Jerry's vocal flub at the apex of China Doll, where he's singing at half time, and then the band has to catch up on the "just a little nervous" part. My first show, and a real good time.
That being said, this is a smokin' little show. Not as lengthy as some others from the era, but great playing start to finish, espeicially in light of the month-long layoff before this date. Jerry tears it up on Music Never Stopped, and the Playin' jam hits the slipstream nicely. Love Jerry's vocal flub at the apex of China Doll, where he's singing at half time, and then the band has to catch up on the "just a little nervous" part. My first show, and a real good time.
Reviewer:
Grateful Jerry
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July 2, 2008 (edited)
Subject: This space is getting hot
Subject: This space is getting hot
As far as the show itself, it's not all that bad at all. It was hot even by Southern California standards. I ended up with heat stroke after this weekend
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so my personal memories have more to do with that. There was also a hot wind blowing which was throwing dirt and dust everywhere and as a result, you'll hear alot of wind noise in this show. I actually like the first set quite well and the second set isn't as bad as some have said at least to these ears. If a board tape shows up, without all the wind noise, this show would get higher ratings. As it is, the taper did the best he could do under the circumstances.
Reviewer:
majordomo
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September 6, 2007
Subject: listen fatigue
Subject: listen fatigue
certainly don't think this is the worst i ever heard. china doll timing IS badly off. recording is just tinny and fatiguing to listen to and china/rider
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is punchless. not really worth dl.
Reviewer:
Gern Blanston
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July 30, 2007
Subject: Yeah Ventura!
Subject: Yeah Ventura!
It was an adventure for sure. Was tehre from 82 until they couldn't pull it off anymore (89?). A must for West coast heads, usually the end of a swing.
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Yeah, a freaking windy dustbowl, but as the other poster said palm trees and a train on cue. I still have the surfing eyeball tee shirt!
I liked the Sugaree 2nd set opener and remember the Big Railroad Blues with a train in the background. Early years in my time seeing the Dead, still amazed at the mass of happy hippies.
Gonna give it a four.
I liked the Sugaree 2nd set opener and remember the Big Railroad Blues with a train in the background. Early years in my time seeing the Dead, still amazed at the mass of happy hippies.
Gonna give it a four.
Reviewer:
UncleJohn1962
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October 16, 2005
Subject: Location Location Location!
Subject: Location Location Location!
My second Ventura show. I was in a bit of a blur - I would not be one to comment on Garcias performance - to be honest - I didn't care - IHMO Garcia is
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always good, and I am always happy to see him - it's just a question of how good he is - sometimes he is less good other times. I do remember China Cat. Daytime setting by the beach in Ventura really made it. Dusty and windy - wind affected the live playback as well as the recorded tapes - as it did at the first Ventura show I went to on 7-18-82.
I had just started my first summer intern job, and my job was in Sunnyvale (some 400 miles away), and the show was on Sunday.
This was my introduction to "you've got to work for a living and try to be a dead head at the same time" Whew! I still haven't gotten over it. I lived on the third floor of an apartment building, and my best buddy mike (died 1984 bless his soul), was walking up between the second and third floor and dropped a beer bottle in the middle of the courtyard, and it went from dead silent to echoing breaking glass at 3AM. He dropped me off at work the next morning and I had brought a Techincs 1506 half track reel-to-reel with me from LA but didn't take into the apartment the night before (thank god it didn't see the same fate as the coors bottle!) So I showed up at work with this reel-to-reel (and those mofo's weigh a lot!), and everybody gave me a strange look - plus I was hungover, lack of sleep, etc. What an adventure!
I had just started my first summer intern job, and my job was in Sunnyvale (some 400 miles away), and the show was on Sunday.
This was my introduction to "you've got to work for a living and try to be a dead head at the same time" Whew! I still haven't gotten over it. I lived on the third floor of an apartment building, and my best buddy mike (died 1984 bless his soul), was walking up between the second and third floor and dropped a beer bottle in the middle of the courtyard, and it went from dead silent to echoing breaking glass at 3AM. He dropped me off at work the next morning and I had brought a Techincs 1506 half track reel-to-reel with me from LA but didn't take into the apartment the night before (thank god it didn't see the same fate as the coors bottle!) So I showed up at work with this reel-to-reel (and those mofo's weigh a lot!), and everybody gave me a strange look - plus I was hungover, lack of sleep, etc. What an adventure!
Reviewer:
Joby
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July 7, 2004 (edited)
Subject: Grateful Graces
Subject: Grateful Graces
Among the many wonders that occured at these fabulous fairgrounds on Ventura Beach (-- to include: dirt in the teeth of all the illegal smilers dancing
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on the dusty rodeo floor; and, what must have been among the hairiest mass-skinny-dipping sessions known to Western man in the ocean at sunset after the shows --) was the following slipscape we all witnessed on this beautiful, 78-degree sunny day, during "I Know You Rider": the Band, with a consistently strong breeze blowing back their hair (and greatly marring the sound quality of these recordings), behind whom arched palm trees framing a passing Northbound train on the hillside a few hundred yards back of stage, its headlamp lit, perfectly on cue.
Reviewer:
Steinbergerman
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June 23, 2004
Subject: Fun in the sun!
Subject: Fun in the sun!
My first show, so I may be biased, but this one is great fun from start to finish. The rare China>Rider opener shows the band to be in a good mood,
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and every song crackles with energy. Although the second set looks brief, it was a smoker. Jerry's screw-up on China Doll was hilarious!
Reviewer:
Seperation of Dead and State
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June 22, 2004
Subject: Junkie Fun....
Subject: Junkie Fun....
The previous reviewer is scathing in his remarks of a fine, fine show. China>Rider to open the show! Sick Brown-Eyed and Music closer....second set
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is lucid and emotional (note the opening Sugareee). Also the recording is spectacular on a breezy day in SoCal...Im bumpin up this rating.
Reviewer:
BenKarm
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June 22, 2004 (edited)
Subject: That China Doll
Subject: That China Doll
As Jerry gets heavy into his first real junkie phase, these shows become a dissapointment especially after such great shows and great fun last year at
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this same beach spot. The China Doll should preserved for after playing the entire song at too fast of a beat, Jerry belts out at less then 1/2 tempoe the "take up you china doll line" that nearly stops the song and stuns the rest of the band, the song, ungracefully, goes back to an even quicker tempo. Definitely interesting. Good Black Peter and it was funny when Bobby forgot the works to Music Never Stopped but otherwise there were very few highlights for the rest of the show.
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